APL Conference 2025
Leeds

Wednesday, 19 November 2025 18:00 PM - Friday, 21 November 2025 16:00 PM

A warm welcome to this year’s APL annual conference. We have accrued a fantastic line-up of speakers, which we hope will transfer value for all levels of experience. Whether you are attending for the know-how or a networking experience to reMEMBER, we hope there will be something for everyone. We wish you a smooth commutation to Leeds and look forward to seeing you there! *Puns intended. **Disclaimer: we are not liable for any surplus or deficit in pension puns arising from conference presentations or informal networking opportunities. Simon Evans and Hannah Cohen, CMS
Conference Organisers 2025

Location & Accommodation

Venue

This year's APL Conference will be held at:

The Queens Hotel

New Station Street City Square

Leeds

LS1 1PJ

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Transport

Train: There is a direct train every 30minutes from London Kings Cross. The Queens hotel is a 4 minute walk from the train station.

Car parking discounts available please contact apl@moore-insight.com

 

 

The Queen's Hotel

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New Station Street City Square

Leeds

LS1 1PJ

A photo of The Queen's Hotel

The Queens Hotel in Leeds is a historic and luxurious 4-star hotel located in City Square, right in the heart of the city and directly connected to Leeds Railway Station.

Leeds Marriott Hotel

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4 Trevelyan Square

Boar Lane

Leeds

LS1 6ET

A picture of the Leeds Marriott Hotel

The Leeds Marriott Hotel is a stylish and centrally located 4-star hotel in the heart of Leeds.

Schedule (subject to change)

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APL 2025 Outline Programme

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Speaker

Our Speakers

Michael Aherne

Michael is a partner in the Pensions Team at Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer, advising on a broad range of issues for both trustee and sponsor clients.

Mark Baker
Karina Brooks

I have been advising on covenant for over 20 years now and lead the national EY Pensions covenant advisory practice. I advise trustees, corporates, investors and government on pensions & covenant and I enjoy advising in complex cases big or small, often through a transaction or restructuring. I am a past chair of the Employer Covenant Practitioners Association which was somewhat inspired by the APL. I also co-lead a cross industry professional women in pensions network alongside Sam Brown (HSFK) which is now in its ninth successful year.

Edward Brown
Charles Cameron

Charles first came across post retirement benefits as a trainee when he read an article which noted that General Motors spent more per car made on post retirement healthcare benefits than steel. Interesting moments in my career: did “retirement at the employer’s request” include compulsory redundancy (AGCO – lost at HC; won 2:1 at CA – judge score 50:50)); INEOS deciding not to restart Grangemouth after receiving notice of a strike over DB closure; the outcome of the GKN shareholder vote on Melrose’s hostile bid (accepted 52:48); the DWP consultation on waiving S67 for the BSPS pre 1997 increase rule ending on the day of the Brexit vote (same percentage).

Mark Grant

Mark is a Professor in Practice at Durham University Law School. He practised in pensions law for 32 years in the London office of CMS, where he was a partner for 24 years and head of the UK team for the final 7. He advised the trustees and employers of some of the largest UK pension schemes and did both advisory and contentious work.
After retiring from CMS he attended Henley Business School and qualified as an executive coach.
He is the author of The Pensions Ombudsman: Powers, Procedures and Decisions (Sweet & Maxwell) and contributor of chapters of The Pensions Law Handbook (Bloomsbury Professional) – 14th to 16th Editions.
He was a member of the APL's Dispute Resolution Committee for 10 years and an elected member of that APL's Main Committee for 4 years and the Chair of the Pensions Ombudsman’s Liaison Group for over 10 years.

Dana Grey

Dana is the Chief Governance, Risk and Legal Officer at the Pension Protection Fund.
She is the oganisation’s chief counsel and is responsible for oversight of all aspects of Risk Assurance, Compliance and Governance.
Dana joined the Pension Protection Fund in 2009 and became Head of Legal in 2013. Prior to that Dana established and was head of the Operations Solutions team, responsible for process improvement, pensions technical support, high-profile/complex schemes and panel management.
Dana led the establishment of the Compliance & Ethics function at the PPF becoming Director of Legal, Compliance & Ethics and the organisation’s Data Protection Officer on its completion.
Dana is also the PPF’s Executive Sponsor for their DEI strategy, overseeing the evolution and delivery of it. She co-founded the inaugural women’s employee network group and is a co-executive sponsor of the PPF’s Race Action Group. Dana is also a Steering Group member for the Diversity Project.
Outside of the PPF, Dana is a Non Executive Director and Chair of Croydon BID, an organisation that works to enhance Croydon’s town centre (where the PPF head office is and where Dana is from) by delivering initiatives that improve safety, cleanliness, business support and vibrancy, making the area more attractive for businesses. Before joining the PPF, Dana was a pensions lawyer in the City including at Mayer Brown and Taylor Wessing.

Jonathan Hilliard KC

Jonathan advises and litigate regularly on pensions restructuring, other corporate pensions issues, moral hazard concerns, RPI and CPI issues and other similar points. He acts in rectification claims and in the compromises of complex pensions disputes, and has appeared before the Court of Justice of the European Union in the Hampshire v PPF litigation. Chambers and Partners ranks him in band 1, describing him as a "powerhouse" and stating that "[h]e sees things that others don't".

Louise Howard

Louise Howard, is the Chief Legal Officer at Universities Superannuation Scheme (Ltd), one of the largest pension schemes in the UK managing assets of around £75.5bn to help 330 universities and higher education institutions in the UK build a secure financial future for 528,000 members. Louise’s team of 20 in house counsel oversee all aspects of legal risk management across the pensions, investment, and group businesses.

Rachel Hunter

Rachel's first introduction to pensions law was sitting with co-speaker Charles Cameron as a trainee - and somehow it didn't put her off. Since then she's developed a multi-specialist practice covering pensions and employment law. Her recent pensions highlights include advising the trustee of the BBC Pension Scheme on the High Court and Court of Appeal proceedings regarding the power of amendment in the scheme rules, advising on the pensions aspects of the sale of Portakabin to Antin Infrastructure Partners and advising on the pensions aspects of the combination between Dowlais Group plc and American Axle & Manufacturing Holdings, Inc.

Miriam Kimber

Miriam joined the PPF in 2009 and runs the legal team day-to-day. She won Lawyer of the Year at the Women in Pensions Awards 2023 and was Highly Commended in the same category in 2024. She volunteers as a moot judge for the charity BVL, is a trustee of a music charity that champions composers from underrepresented groups, and is a member of the Conduct in Sport panel for Cricket Scotland.

Carly Kisanga

Carly is the head of the legal pensions team at Smart Pension. Carly works closely with the Smart Pension Master Trust and has worked on three master trust to master trust consolidations. Carly has been at Smart for four years and before that was in private practise at Linklaters for over 14 years. Carly joined the APL Investment & DC sub-committee in January.

Iain MacKenzie
Victoria Mance

Victoria is a Client Director at Vidett Trustee Services Limited, an independent trustee and governance services business. She joined Vidett nearly two years ago, and sits on a number of pension scheme and IGC boards, DB and DC, with clients ranging from £3m to over £1 billion.
Before joining Vidett, Victoria spent 22 years as a pensions lawyer in private practice in the City, including secondments to TPR, DWP and PPF.
Victoria is thoroughly enjoying the move to trusteeship at a time when governance and best practice is a focus with General Code compliance. She enjoys promoting good relationships with sponsors, and building and strengthening relationships within trustee boards, and with advisers. She loves the variety of issues that come up daily – it’s never dull in pensions!

Jennifer Miles
Sarah Opie

Sarah Opie is a counsel in the Linklaters pensions group, advising trustees and corporates on contentious and non-contentious matters. She has experience in both de-risking transactions and pensions disputes. Her de-risking experience includes buy-ins (including residual risk transactions), buy-outs and longevity swaps. Her pensions disputes experience includes addressing historic errors in scheme rules, considering amendment power restrictions, and advising on issues arising in connection with discretionary increases. Sarah is a member of the APL Dispute Resolution Committee.

Elizabeth Ovey

Elizabeth is a member of Radcliffe Chambers and first became involved with pensions law as a result of the 1985 miners' strike. Some 40 years on it is a major part of her practice. Her clients include trustees, employers and individual members and the issues on which she advises include points of construction, possible rectification claims, scheme funding, trustees' duties and professional negligence claims. She is a contributor to Lexis PSL pension notes and Halsbury's Laws. She also sits as a fee-paid judge of the Administrative Appeals Chamber of the Upper Tribunal.

Helen Quarrell

My career has been in-house with 14 years at L&G followed by five at Fidelity and now nearly two at Coutts. I’ve covered all sorts of financial services in my career, but the focus has always been on pensions, either servicing schemes directly or creating products to be used by pension schemes. Currently my focus is workplace and personal DC schemes. I joined the APL Investments and DC Committee in 2018. Outside of work my children and the local Guide unit (which I have run for over 20 years) ensure my house is never tidy and frequently covered in random craft equipment.

Helen Rowan

Helen Rowan is a Senior Counsel at Sackers with nearly 20 years' experience in the pensions industry. Helen currently leads the day-to-day advisory work for a number of large DB and hybrid schemes as well as various risk transfer projects.

Sarah Swift

Sarah started out, accidentally, as a pensions lawyer at Freshfields in January 1999 where the issue of the day was who owned the surplus. After 12 years there (watching surpluses change into deficits) she then spent 13 years as a pensions partner at Eversheds Sutherland where she is now reflecting on the cyclical nature of surplus fashions. On a serious note, Sarah advises a mix of very large DB/DC schemes from both a trustee and employer perspective, has spent a large amount of time over the past 6 years advising on large-scale projects involving surplus and is now coming to the end of a very enjoyable four year term sitting on the Main Committee of the APL.

Thomas Trennery

Tom is Head of Legal (Workplace Savings) and Chief of Staff to the CEO, DC & Workplace Savings at L&G. He trained and qualified into the pensions team at DLA Piper before joining L&G.

Michael Uberoi

Michael practises in commercial and regulatory law, with a particular emphasis upon pensions and financial services. Michael is described as “a first-rate barrister who blends legal skills with a great client-focused approach”, who is “technically brilliant but also a pleasure to work with.” An “exceptional advocate” who is “great on his feet”, and “very dynamic and bright”, Michael has appeared in several of the leading cases in pension litigation over recent years (for example, Safeway v Newton in the Court of Appeal (twice) and the CJEU (equalisation and construction), and Univar v Smith (rectification and the exercise of powers).

Clive Weber

Clive advises on all aspects of UK pensions law, drawing on over 45 years’ experience as a pensions’ lawyer. His expertise includes pension issues for employers, trustees and members. Originally a private client lawyer, Clive founded Wedlake Bell's pension practice and still much enjoys pensions law both as a Consultant with Wedlake Bell and as a member of the APL's Legislative & Parliamentary Sub - Committee. Career highlights include a secondment to DWP Policy in relation to the employer debt legislation. Clive is one of the Editors of Sweet & Maxwell's "Law of Pension Schemes" and is on the Editorial Board of Lexis Pensions.

Vanessa Wells

Vanessa is a Partner at Eversheds Sutherland with over 20 years' experience in pensions, including time spent at the Pensions Regulator. Vanessa advises both employer and trustee clients in relation to large DB schemes, and supports insurer clients with due diligence on risk transfer exercises. Over the last 3 years, Vanessa has advised on a number of complex surplus utilisation exercises from both the employer and the trustee perspective and has been a regular speaker on the topic at various industry events. Vanessa sits on the APL's International sub-committee.

Ian Wright

Ian is Arc Pensions Law’s technical director.
Before joining Arc, Ian headed the UK pensions team at an international law firm where he advised a range of trustees, employers and providers on the full range of pension matters, with a particular interest in covenant and funding issues.
Ian is a Fellow of the PMI, a former elected councilor and chair of its governance committee. Ian sat on the APL’s legislative and parliamentary sub-committee for many years and currently sits on the SPP’s tax committee.

Liam Young

Liam is a partner in the Pensions Team at the independent Scottish law firm, Burness Paull LLP. He advises employers, trustees and providers on every aspect of UK pensions law and is a director of the firm’s independent trustee company. He has particular expertise in complaints and disputes, resolving documentation and equalisation issues, scheme de-risking strategies and wind-up journeys, the pensions aspects of corporate transactions, the employer debt regime and the pensions and regulatory implications of corporate insolvencies and restructurings.

Pricing Tables

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£ 1045 + VAT (£1254)

Please do get in touch with Lauren Grundy at APL@moore-insight.com should you need any assistance at the Conference or if, for medical or access reasons, you would be interested in attending the Conference as a live-stream.

    Accommodation on Wednesday and Thursday nights in either The Queens Hotel or Leeds Marriott Hotel.

    Drinks reception on the Wednesday evening at The Queens Hotel.

    Breakfast, lunch and refreshments on Thursday and Friday.

    The drinks reception and gala dinner at The Royal Armouries on Thursday.

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£ 845 + VAT (£1014)

Please do get in touch with Lauren Grundy at APL@moore-insight.com should you need any assistance at the Conference or if, for medical or access reasons, you would be interested in attending the Conference as a live-stream.

    Virtual attendance to the APL 2025 conference. You will receive joining information ahead of the event once your booking is confirmed.

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